what the eff is going on here?!?!

UPDATE: you may have noticed that TheMoviesWeMake.com just redirects to a page back here on WeMakeMovies.org. that’s because we’re realizing our experiment in three different sites has been officially deemed a failure and we’re coming back to our senses. in the coming weeks, you’ll be seeing more changes to the site which we believe will make your experience far more productive and will hopefully make it easier for you to make your movies better. so keep your eyes peeled, and if you like feel free to continue reading to witness our naivety from a year and a half ago while this post still exists.


it didn’t quite dawn on me when i launched the brand new front page of this site here that it might be a bit of a shock to the system for some people. that’s probably because i’ve been working on the component parts of these changes for months. i guess it’s like if a friend that you see everyday gains a lot of weight, you don’t really notice – but if you don’t see him for a long time and then suddenly you do with all that new weight … you catch my drift.

well, a few moments ago i received an email from new-ish WMM member Bill Ferris asking this question:

I’m trying to get a better understanding of this group’s resources/assets and it’s a bit confusing. There’s wemakemovies.org and whomakesmovies.com. What’s the purpose/difference between the two websites?

Screaming Manright! we just kinda sprung it on people and didn’t REALLY explain what was happening. that’s of course going to cause some confusion. so in case you, like Bill, have been confusi-fied by the new changes, here’s a slightly edited version of my response. i hope it helps:

there are actually three sites total: WeMakeMovies.org, TheMoviesWeMake.com & WhoMakesMovies.com (incidentally, we’d love to have WeMakeMovies.com, but some dude [REDACTED]).

we’re currently trying to integrate all three sites so they work as much like a single site as possible, but that’s going to take time to get there. in the meantime, each of the three serves a slightly different purpose:

  • WeMakeMovies.org, is the News & Events site – it’s where you go when you want information about our events and workshops, or if you’re looking for filmmaking tips and tricks, reviews of products, interesting new tech or legal news that effects indie filmmakers, etc – we want it to be where indies go every single day to find out what’s going on in the indie world – or to catch back if they’ve been out of it for a while. this is like the HuffPo of the three sites.
  • TheMoviesWeMake.com is where we post our Movies. this is still a work in progress, but the idea is that we’ll start posting all of the movies we make – and where the people in our community can post the movies they make as well (but we’re still figuring out a fair and simple protocol for posting movies purely from the community). in a perfect world, the quality and quantity of our work – and the frequency with which we post it – will make this a place where we develop an actual audience. this will hopefully be the place where people come to sit back and enjoy the films that we as a “Production Company” make and share with the world. this will eventually become our low-fi Hulu.
  • finally, WhoMakesMovies.com is where viewers can learn more about each Member individually – sort of a group portfolio site. as more and more of us (we hope) and more of our films become successful and well-known, this is where people will learn about us individually. the credits from TheMoviesWeMake will link to this site so people can learn about and then as they read our credits, they’ll see other WMM movies we’ve made and will link right back to those movies on TheMoviesWeMake. so this is basically our imdb.

all in all, the three sites should eventually work together like an indie film-lovers casino – once you’re in, it’s hard to find the exit and a big part of you doesn’t even want to.

you’ll be able to learn about cheap film-making innovations, then move over to a movie in which we used it and then check out the credits, reels and gallery of the people in the film.

there is one other very cool innovation i’m in the middle of developing (for WhoMakesMovies.com) that we hope will make it far easier for all of us to get help on our films. i don’t want to say too much about it except that its implementation is still about a month or two away.

so i know it’s not quite there yet, but i’m basically a one-man, no-money development team, so it takes the time that it takes. tiny changes, tweaks and small changes in the information architecture are happening all the time so that we can eventually get it exactly where we want it. i know those changes can make it difficult to get settled, but it’s kind of the only way to get there.

does that help?

so … does it? =)